I'll stop laughing if it ever becomes even remotely plausible. Right now it's pretty funny.

For instance, a common concern espoused by white nationalists is that other races have a nefarious plot to eliminate the white race by having so much sex with white people that after several dozen generations the average melanin content of their descendants' skin increases, making their complexions darker than it is at present. How a group that was not killed and successfully passed on its genetic material can be said to have suffered genocide I really don't know...

OK, but I don't think they are the same thing.
The 'I' is the main thing - Investment and Interest are different. If you make an investment of capital, you may well get interest - and/or you could get back more capital and get a capital gain which would then be your Return on Investment, even if you were paid no interest. I know this level of detail spoils your Ireland joke a bit, but this kind of financial shenanigans is why the banks have most of us over a barrel.

What about Jungle cockroaches?

I think it was the first which was gratuitous.

I think they should have dropped it -- if they were going to drop it at all -- first on an unpopulated or thinly-populated valley, then told the Japanese government what they'd done and where. Told them to go measure the blast radius, examine the blast effects, and be sure to take Geiger counters. After that, if the Japanese didn't agree to open up talks, only then should they have targeted a populated area.

So this stand-off is because they're white? Pfft.

I am Eurasian, and I find nothing remotely humorous about it.

.. and let's face it we were really voting for Gary in the first place ;)

I amend your sticker slightly:
"Obey the US, or we'll bring democracy to YOUR country"

Having nothing new is something that the regressive left can never be accused of. In just the last few years they have given us white privilege, subconscious bias, micro-aggression's, triggers and snow-flake, to name but a few pearls.

Real or not real, dogs should not bite the hand that feeds them

Provide the known data. And the common sense.

Where did I call for racial imbalance? Black Lives Matter speaks to the heart of the issue - all lives matter, so we should start acting like it by affording black lives the value they deserve.

Also, you're right, no-one can force you to be either offended or accepting of something. That's entirely personal. However, we all need to put up with what is commonly considered to be acceptable, particularly given the context.

Acknowledging that people are different is not racist. It's possible to have a collective identity that takes into account racial, social, political and religious backgrounds without that collective identity impinging on the rights of another collective group. Equality is not uniformity. Difference is OK. Context is key and nuance should be explored and celebrated.

They really can't even muster irony.

Whatever colour, there is no satirical or any other sort of humour there - racist genocide is not funny - why is it so hard for First Dog to understand that?

As opposed to yourself, who puts a : ) thingy after everything you write which you falsely believe to be funny, or is it that at least one person finds your witherings amusing....albeit yourself.

Go sell crazy someplace else.
We're all stocked up here.

Great work, again!

Wipe your chin then.

When they commission a cartoon saying, jokingly or not, it's be nice to exterminate any other race, give me a call.

They were supposed to replace the crackers every month, but they only came once. Along with grousing about the teacher who had claustrophobia, the teachers groused about how the crackers were years old and were probably inedible.

Haven't spotted your here at the Dogonaut Lounge fingal, but that explanation earns you a chair next to the fireplace and a whisk(e)y.
The Marsupialists who inhabit the place are quite neat, so do wash out your tumbler and turn the lights off when you decide to head off.
Cheers!

Truman should have been derided.

I understand the arguments for the first bomb, but the second was gratuitous.

thanks

thats whu i wrote the line ((ps I know it actually means return of interest)

you don;t really "do" humour do you?

Ha, big surprise

Return on Investment

You just don't get the sophistication of FDOM. It's very subtle stuff you see. The West is terrible, white people should be eradicated, and anyone not white is a victim and perfect in every way. You need an Arts degree to understand the genius

..and, you believe this tosh?

"N Korea is not threatening to invade anywhere. As Churchill said 'Jaw, Jaw is preferable to War, War'." Tell that to the South Koreans; those paranoid war mongers spending billions maintaining defenses along the demilitarized zone.

I pity anyone who ended up in that time. Planet of the Wigs

"In order for balance to be sought, the imbalance must be called out and acknowledged."

Achieving racial balance by creating racial imbalance with what is acceptable racism is completely ridiculous and counterproductive.

History's narrative doesn't get to determine what I or anyone else finds acceptable or not. That leads to racial stereotyping, and collective identity. Aren't we trying to avoid that?

Wouldn't a white supremacist browser zoom in on that line, rather than block it out??

Try harder petal.

The wig would create a new race with the wig of Elton John and the moustache of Freddy Mercury from Viz circa 1989 and more recently the moustache of Col. K from Dangermouse.

Sleeping is for wimps. Tweeting is much better.

Truman didn't threaten Japan with nuclear annihilation for simply threatening him with words. They were at war, with millions dead.

NK may be nutters, but all they did was goad Trump, not kill lots of US soldiers

I hated sleeping at night anyway.

Jeez that's scary.

Extrapolating from known data + common sense.

I'd guess that when he was 11, someone gave him an Atomic Wedgie, and he's been looking for a way to revenge himself on the world ever since. A full blown Atomic War would be about the level he would see as appropriate. Plus, as a cockroach, he could probably survive being a ground zero.

Agreed. :-)

Whataboutery warning: However, the description fits the barker-in-chief as well if you switch 'someone gave him an Atomic Wedgie' for 'someone dismissed his gropey advances'.

he'd be fine. He's not real.

Harden, Blaine; Harden, Blaine (2015-03-20). "The U.S. war crime North Korea won’t forget". The Washington Post. ISSN 0190-8286

Maybe you imagined it?

Right?

they will be the loudest demanding aggressive intervention from the US military...

Nope, they'll be dead or loudly demanding radiation meds.

Truman had already used one bomb, and was about to use another. He had the tactical benefit that the opposition didn't have nuclear weapons. And he probably didn't understand the effects of nuclear fallout.
N Korea is not threatening to invade anywhere. As Churchill said 'Jaw, Jaw is preferable to War, War'.

I'm not seeing the white genocide line anymore.

I think we need to acknowledge that history and context will have an impact of what is deemed to be acceptable.

It's like the Black Lives Matter/All Lives Matter argument - BLM is arguing that ALM. ALM, as a movement, fails to acknowledge that, by pretty much any measure you care to use, black lives do not currently matter as much as far as the system is concerned. Education, poverty, incarceration rates, police shootings and violence... people of black origin in the States and elsewhere are at the wrong end of those statistics.

In order for balance to be sought, the imbalance must be called out and acknowledged.

This cartoon is, obliquely and probably unintentionally, also pointing out that this joke is acceptable because history's narrative does not make this a sensitive or seriously offensive joke.

Please address the topic instead of throwing out insults.

I thought I had? My grammar isn't the best, love the user name btw

The cartoon itself is playing identity politics. I assume it's magically exempt from your jibes?

Silly dribble

Whataboutism

Do you alt-right have anything new?

Did you know the moon is made of cheese?
How can I know something that isn't true?

How would that dog feel if I made a cartoon about dogs being responsible for 77% of non domestic violent crime in 2016 and advocating that their import be banned?

Maybe you'd be better off asking Steve Bannon; Jeff Sessions; or anyone in the White House? It isn't as if it's a particularly diverse institution at present.

Just because you don't like it means that there isn't people who do like it.

You happened to be born to your parents, the rest is pretty much history uninfluenced by you

It was for 20 years apparantly.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fsei3aqTKGo

It is not 'nonsense'. I did not say the Kim's were angels, I simply pointed out the American attitude. They have toppled many legitimate governments to put puppets their in place. There are few indeed in power who do not have blood on their hands. I was not trying to give a history lesson on Asian despotism. Everything I said was true as far as my research told me. The Americans are always pushing other countries to do their bidding - and I'm getting sick of it.
Stop trying to change the context.

I doubt if Harry Truman faced the same amount of criticism or derison when he said the same thing 72 years back.

On the other hand, if Trump had adopted Obama's appeasement tactics with Kim, the same critics who mock Trump for being a blowhard would be comparing him to Neville Chamberlain instead.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Granted, predominantly a variety from the centre to the left, but a variety nonetheless.

And definitely more variety than you'll find in most other papers.

Ok....them maybe it is my browser. I'm not seeing the white genocide line anymore.

good

Because it's the story the artist decided to tell or do you think the guardian dictates what they want to see? I think people are making this out to be a lot worse thend it actually is

only if you fail to understand the cartoon.

This is a delicate situation and any statements from the White House should come from carefully considered meetings with diplomats, advisers the joint chiefs, not the fucking toilet.

1) Is POTUS suffering from
a) diarrhea?
b) constipation?
c) a long-standing inability to grasp the complexities of potty training?
d) other? (please specify: _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _)
e) all of the above?

2) Who are the members of his behind-[sic]-the-scenes WC [Water Cabinet]?

Experts really need to get to the bottom [sic] of this!

it's what we humans call "satire" :)

Very telling that you presume to speak for everybody, just like every well meaning fascist started out

so, are you saying that the cartoon is not satire? And that in fact most people wouldn't see it as such? You seem to be having some trouble with the concept of logic as well as humour

In fairness, an explanation was requested.

I do feel the need to defend myself and state that I was thoroughly aware that my explanation was over-the-top and condescending.

Nope, comic is justill as I first read it last night

Don't know that one but Tom Lehrer's "We'll All Go Together" would seem due for a replay.

it's what we humans call "satire" :)

Very telling that you presume to speak for everybody, just like every well meaning fascist started out

That was what we call "joke" :)

The thing is, if you wrote like a humourless hard right AI automaton, then that's likely to be the way you get responded to.

I don't think the Germans would kick start their war again, however US and other NATO troops were stationed in Germany to prevent Russia from starting a war so rather than the Germans. Or are you one of those people that thinks the Russians had to occupy eastern Europe to protect the people there from the evils of the west?

Fiction is the most powerful vehicle for political statement.

Well, Utopia would be 0000.

I'm pretty sure there are nuclear warheads aimed at most cities already.

No, they'll be hightailing it for mid Wales and the Highlands or Ireland

Eric Fletcher Waters, killed at Anzio in 1944, was Roger Waters Old man. Apparently used the name invthe song to honour his dad.
Cool song.

or else 'lighten up', with the insinuation the critic might actually have mental problems or is suffering from the dangerous spirit of politically incorrect forms of 'seriousness'.

well...

It's getting boring as well as tedious

Bingo.

You just seem to be entirely devoid of either a sense of humour or the ability to understand that people with other views actually are permitted to have them.

I don't disagree with you, but foreign policy announcements from the toilet seat does not mean the Guardian needs to respond in kind along with racial undertones, they're better than that. If politics becomes little more than a trade of insults between press v press and press and politician it is detrimental to the flow of information that allows individuals to make informed choice.

It would be very easy to post Trump is a turd and get a hundred likes, but what would that achieve beyond the reader knowing my own personal opinion, it would challenge absolutely nothing. I like political satire but there is a line between that and hysteria, in my opinion the press crossed that line along time ago.

If there is no such thing as race why on earth does the Graun peddle a steady stream of race based grievance politics. This doodle being but one decidedly shitty example.

Yep, and anyone not conforming to an extreme left wing position on any issue is considered right wing or hard right, as you've seen.

As Gary was a separate entity, perhaps he's not a dual citizen and could tak the Senate seat?

Very poor. What's ethnicity got to do with the issue?

I heard that it started when a bloke called Archie Duke shot an ostrich 'cause he was hungry.

actually, it does.

Yes, 'the resistance' and the protesters are very often, though not always, firmly a product of the society that made a Trump presidency almost inevitable. The genuinely hilarious part of this tired and clichéd rerun of Vietnam era tribute band protests is they can't see they are part of the problem they affect to be the cure for.

I actually suspect many of the protesters are delighted Trump won because it reinforced their sense of self, of the real need for the protests they craved a cause for in a bored consumer society. The idea Trump might be there because of people like them, of course, might require the sort of deeper reflection they're incapable of

Naturally, if a person points this out, the sneering retort is one that starts heresy hunting for deviation ( 'is he really anti-Trump ?' ) or else 'lighten up', with the insinuation the critic might actually have mental problems or is suffering from the dangerous spirit of politically incorrect forms of 'seriousness'.

The idea, in reality, has to be that Trump could cause nuclear war because he's Trump and not because these were longer term problems not solved or dealt with by successive administrations. This is actually a way of dealing with fear: if Trump goes, the threat goes and, anyway, 'we don't like Trump'.

It's getting boring as well as tedious. Trump is the worst sort of President to have in these times which are more dangerous than ever. But even if he wasn't there, the world would remain as dangerous as would North Korea. But Trump hasn't 'caused' this crisis but has no skill at dealing with it.

Andrew Bachevich is accurate on this: he recently argued that Trump is a consequence of a failing political system. It seems too many in the US, including the Guardian in Britain as transatlanticist publication, think Trump is a 'cause' of all problems as opposed to being a consequence.

and you, they fool all of the time...

:)

You just don't get the sophistication of FDOM. It's very subtle stuff you see. The West is terrible, white people should be eradicated, and anyone not white is a victim and perfect in every way. You need an Arts degree to understand the genius of it all.

Yeah, but that Coriolis Effect can be a bugger - might be time to reread Nevil Shute's "On the Beach" but do not watch the crappy movie.

someone please check bannons' lead levels

It's a cartoon. Calm down and get some fresh air and a sense of perspective

Just refreshed the page there.....is it just my browser or has the cartoon been edited down since this morning??

N1 9GU

I suspect there are already loads of nuclear warheads aimed at London, Manchester, Belfast, Edinburgh etc.

Normal isn't a word I'd use to describe Don or Kim.

While you are poking the race stick into the wasps' nest.....
The pup is a lighter shade than his dad.
Don't tell me that his mother is a whiter shade of pale?
The poor kid will not be able to show his face in the Groan again.

Duck and cover

Probably not gluten free enough. Actually the crawl space sounds like a good idea as a funnel web bite would be a much faster, less hideous death.

Threads was filmed in Sheffield on the grounds that it looked like a nuclear bomb had hit it anyway

I'd forgotten Bert Duckencover but you reminded me of one of FDotM's most disturbing characters, Mr Bulgy the tights wearing turtle safe skools mascot.

hahah....grow some self esteem man, stop relying on artifical nonsense (skin color/race) when it comes to that. Its probably important in your life but its meaningless.
I am white and I find it hilarious.

Just remember, you have NO CLUE why you are who and what you are. You happened to be born to your parents, the rest is pretty much history uninfluenced by you (did you choose your teachers, your doctors, your bosses etc`? No).

So calm down dear, as they say here.

A variety of perspectives?
On the Guardian site?

From the ciffers, perhaps.

Good song - Anyone know who was Fletcher and why was he/she memorialsied as former tyrant? Can't think of any.

The NSW Premier, Gladys Berejiklian, is going there for ... some reason which escapes me.
Possibly to ask them to reduce the width of the railway carriages, which can't be built in Redfern any more, by a couple of inches so that station platform don't have to be moved.

Unfortunately there is no plan to eradicate the white race... Oh that is cutting edge edgy.

That is complete nonsense. Did you ever learned about the mass killing of civilians and despotic militant power-grabbing that has plagued the entire southeast Asia region since well before the first Sino-Japanese War, and long before the US was ever near the region whatsoever? Do you know Kim's grandfather and father murdered and machinated their way into absolute hegemonic dominance there? Learn some real history it will help you see things in the right context.

It seems to me that the left are just reacting to the rights over-reacting to this comic which has a natural left leaning curve. The problem is that's all we're doing, reacting which is true for trump and Kim who are bouncing off each other like a game of pong.

It was Kim Il Sung's North Korea that invaded the South in 1950 after the USSR left the north and the USA had left the south. Soeul changed hands four times before the US/UK/Australia landed in Inchon to cut off the North 's army.
Kim Il Sung was a major in the Red Army, who fought a guerilla war against the Japanese occupation, and was installed as leader at the end of WW2 by Joe Stalin.

"or is his tirade against North Korea meant to distract us from Russia?"

Nail on the head.

Just because you don't like it means that there isn't people who do like it.

Very true. Because you can fool some of the people, some of the time.....

t the end of the day they must expect some ROI.

Republic of Ireland? Dont blame us!

We have a half Indian, gay Prime Minister.....we should have enough brownie points to stay out of the Graunds ire for another while.

(ps I know it actually means return of interest)

What about a team America sequel?

My issue is that accepting this as being ok, but the reverse as being totally unacceptable, actually holds different races to different standards.

White people are so intellectually, morally, emotionally, and spiritually oppressed that they have begun laughing at the prospect of their own genocide.

Just the one glass? Very abstemious of you.
Wise not to exceed the recommended daily limit, gotta think of the future... oh, wait.

There is also a few Japanese productions that could illustrate the horrors of the blast such as Barefoot Gen and the Graves of the Fireflies

Thanks for the mansplaining.

Dear God, now you have actually made me use that rancid expression.......uck

Too high, a merkin is much lower down - ask a Tasmanian.

it's what we humans call "satire" :)

Very telling that you presume to speak for everybody, just like every well meaning fascist started out

Bless.

You're confusing "grown-up" with "po-faced attempt to stifle humour directed to your shibboleth"

If you take a moment to get a sense of perspective you may realise what a humourless ideologue this makes you look.

Sure, But it doesnt make the point less valid